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What I’ve been up to

I’ve been quiet on the blog. Stuff going on in real life, unfortunately. Also, spending a lot of time improving my dynamic compression plugin. Thankfully, the problem hasn’t been a lock of focus.

I’ve found my meds have made sleep a bit more difficult, and I’ve been a bit more anxious. But I really feel improved on them.

I’ll finish my changes to the plugin and maybe start blogging more in a few days.

Also, I’m moving from Mt. Pleasant to Austin. That will be a nice change.

Oh, yes. In the meantime here’s a kind of interesting thread I’ve been commenting on. I talk about masculinity and femininity, how society defines them, how I define them, and how people relate to them.


More on feminism and child support

Oh, wow. Looks like this issue is getting more attention. Amanda Marcotte, Lindsay Beyerstein, and Shakespeare’s Sister have all weighed in, based on a court case actually being argued (I’m supposing) along the lines of my previous post. Now, the former two are writers I read regularly, and who I tend to agree with 90% of the time. So I feel kind of awkward taking a position so very opposed to theirs. But I feel I must.

None really say anything that I feel a need to dissect. They don’t present a strong, well-reasoned case for their side, as I do, and I don’t feel like divining what their exact arguments against my position might be before they state them. But I do want to draw a bit of attention to them for my hypothetical readers, and to make a disclaimer for myself. I don’t necessarily support any of the arguments being made by these MRA laywers or their client, and in fact I probably don’t support many of them. They’re almost certainly not approaching the issue from a feminist viewpoint, and I’d like to think that I am. And while the details of the exact case aren’t clear, this is definitely not the most clear-cut case to support my own view. The existence of a long-term prior relationship (How long term? I’m not sure.) means that the girlfriend could have had reasonable expectations. The boyfriend’s case seems to hinge on the fact that he had made clear, as he said, that he didn’t want any children. Establishing that in court might be hard, and I think it would be a terrible idea for the burden of proof to be on the mother in this situation, as women already have to overcome so much to deal with the courts at all. (See, there? I’m not really an MRA sympathizer.) Is there a precedent for this? Probably not.

But it could turn out that he’s being an asshole about the whole thing.

I’m not sure I can support this case even if it turns out the guy doesn’t really owe her child support by my view. Because this sort of situation is still relatively rare, and in general to have that sort of precedent is going in exactly the wrong direction for women’s rights in this country. I do think it’s unjust for men in that situation, but compared to the injustice that women suffer, it’s really almost excusable. I’m much more afraid that, in the current climate, changing this would be an overcorrection and lead to more injustice to women in child support cases than it prevents against men in these cases.
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On being a contrarian

Taking positions that go against the general grain of a certain ideology that you believe in for the most part, and then presenting those positions to those who share most of your views, but without having established yourself as a trustworthy member of that ideological community, is a recipe for being misunderstood.

No big surprise there. But it is frustrating, sometimes. I never feel like reading conservative blogs, or anti-feminist blogs, or anti-singularity blogs, for instance. I only like reading blogs that I agree with 80+% of the time. That way, when I argue over the remaining 20%, it’s engaging and constructive. Incidentally, I think that if one wants to expand the ideological spectrum of one’s blogroll, the thing to do isn’t to change the percentage, but to look for discussion at a higher level. I could talk to a conservative about secular moral philosophy, for instance, even if discussions about abortion would be entirely fruitless. Because at the higher levels, eventually you reach logical principles and/or universally common experiences, which will eventually reach 80% agreement.

The downside of all this is that it’s easy to be perceived as not being as friendly and understanding as you really are to the positions that you’re criticising, because people assume that you’re criticizing more than you actually are. They assume that you’re one of “the other” instead of someone with minor differences in opinion. It’s especially hard to be the kind of person that thinks a lot about meta issues, like me, and therefore doesn’t have much to say on the substance of many articles, even if one enjoys them a lot, but instead prefers to point out logical errors in arguments that can probably stand anyway, or on other legs. Pointing out those errors is seen as a hostile action.

I think it boils down to this. It’s really easy to attribute positions commonly held by group A to an individual commenter who appears to resemble group A, even when the commenter really avoids saying anything that explicitly identifies them as being in group A. Part of this is justified, of course. If one is unaware of how a person could reconcile their A-style belief with their wider ideology of B, how their A-style belief could really be consistent with B, then one is justified in identifying the person as a member of group A. But one shouldn’t put much stock in this identification, and this is where I think many people fall short. They cling to that preliminary identification. If the person tries to identify themselves more with B, others will suspect dishonesty. And it’s possible for a commenter to avoid this, to some degree, with careful phrasing and proper ordering and good framing.

This general tendency to confuse a person with a wider group manifests in other ways, too. I see very often where liberals will denigrate conservatives because of some supposed hypocricy in, e.g. being pro-life yet anti-gun-control. But it’s a mistake to accuse a group of people of hypocricy unless the hypocritical actions have been observed together in enough individual members of the group to know that those members are representative of the group.

In particular, it’s patently unfair to take two separate groups of people (say, moral values conservatives versus big business consevatives) with two different behaviors that, in a single person, would be hypocritical, and combine those two groups (say, conservatives), and call that single group hypocritical. For example, it’s a fallacy to say that anti-feminists are hypocritical in argumentation because they’re either saying you’re too shrill or saying you’re getting too technical. Because it’s likely that the group of people that would say the first has a small overlap with the group of people that would say the second, even if both are contained within the larger group of anti-feminists.

This fallacy happens because of the homogenizing effects of intellectual tribalism on the other side. It becomes easier to merge and conflate separate and disparate instances of an opposing viewpoint, perceiving them as being concomitant in individual representatives of the other viewpoint.

Case in point (although this is one of millions): is this comment.


Feminism and Child Support

First off, you might have to take my word that I’m a pretty feminist guy in order to understand this post the way I intend it. If you don’t want to take my word, I’d still like to hear from you, but we may not get very far. In case you’re interested, this post comes from my comments on this thread at Alas, a blog. I finally decided to make a post on it after reading this thread at Pandagon that brings up some of the same issues in the comments.

Second, my whole argument is premised on the idea that abortion is readily available to the mother, in the strongest sense, and as that really isn’t true in the US right now it makes my argument kind of hypothetical, and in any case a much lower priority than other feminist issues. Nonetheless, the issue kind of bothers me, being a guy and all.

So, all you feminists out there, what do you think the man’s obligation is where he meets a random girl in a bar, they hook up that night consensually, and she gets pregnant and bears the child? Do you think he should be obligated to pay child support? Is there a way to justify this with feminist theory? Or do you think it’s so obvious you would want to hear an argument against before even bothering with defending it?

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