Secret pay scales

Why is it that one’s salary is such an incredibly sensitive topic in America? (Do other countries have this attitude as well?) Not knowing what other people in your company make is harmful to you, because you can’t be sure you’re not getting screwed. Why can’t more companies have open compensation policies? And further, why can’t workers push for this? Is open pay much more standard in unionized industries?



9 Responses to “Secret pay scales”

LizardBreath says:

It’s a norm enforced by employers because it’s to their benefit, and yes, pay scales are transparent under every union contract I’ve ever heard of.

pdf23ds says:

Sure. I’m just surprised that more employees don’t seem to resent this. Whence the taboo?

LizardBreath says:

Employers have successfully sold it as nosy and uncouth to want to know what your fellow employees are making. And in at least some workplaces, you can get fired for sharing salary information.

pdf23ds says:

You really think employers are responsible for the social attitude?

pdf23ds says:

“pay scales are transparent under every union contract I’ve ever heard of”

Just for the uninionized job itself, or also for management?

LizardBreath says:

Yes, I absolutely do. People really no-shit get fired over spreading salary data around, and the excuse is that it’s private. If Ideal weren’t out of town, I’d call him over here — he spent most of his worklife in the Army, where salaries are transparent, and the taboo doesn’t make any sense to him. It only exists because employers push it.

And I don’t think that transparent salaries for a unionized workforce have any relationship to transparency in the salaries of management for that workforce.

pdf23ds says:

Well, it’s just that it seems like employers are taking advantage of a pre-existing taboo against talking about salaries to use an excuse. But I don’t see how the companies’ actions could create the cultural attitudes in the first place.

Then again, I can see how they’re maintained by companies’ policies. If companies dropped the pay secrecy policy, the cultural attitude would eventually go away. But it seems like the attitude predated that. Or did it?

LizardBreath says:

No, I’m pretty sure it didn’t. In workplaces where the employer doesn’t enforce secrecy, the taboo doesn’t exist. (Which is why I brought up Ideal and the Army.) It’s pure scam.

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